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Is the Eucharist after mass still the Body and Blood of Christ?  

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Patrick92DE
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July 19, 2019 4:02 pm  

Hello Pastor...again 😅

I shared a meme on Facebook concern calvinists saying "God is sovereign but he can't be present in eucharist". Now a roman catholic, orthodox hybrid (not aure what he is tbh) says he can turn around and say the same thing "God is omnipotent but cannot remain in the eucharist". 

Do Lutherans  believe that the bread and wine cease to be the Body and Blood of Christ after mass/service? 

 

Blessings

 

Patrick


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John
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July 21, 2019 11:41 pm  

Hi @Patrick

I think you may already know, but Pastor Tapani is about to go on his annual family holiday for a couple of weeks, so it may be a while before he gets a chance to reply.

God bless,

John


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Patrick92DE
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July 22, 2019 12:17 am  

@admin

Hey John,

Yeah there is no rush in answering 🙂

 

Blessings

Patrick


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Tapani Simojoki
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September 2, 2019 2:48 pm  

Short answer: We can't know since the Bible doesn't tell us.

Longer answer: The bread and the wine were given for us to eat and to drink. Since that is what we have been given, that is what we have. There have been different opinions in the church about what happens to the elements after the mass has ended. Some orthodox Lutheran teachers, such as the Swedish archbishop Olov Svebilius (1624-1700) in his explanation of the Small Catechism, argue categorically that there is no sacrament outside the celebration, and so the bread and the wine outside the mass are just bread and wine. Others have disagreed.

In his First Apology, Justin Martyr (100-165) refers to deacons taking the consecrated sacrament to the sick - though you could argue that that's not so much eucharist outside the mass as including the physically absent in the mass.

The practical answer to this unanswerable question is to avoid all doubt and confusion by consuming all consecrated elements during the mass. That way, the question becomes entirely theoretical and therefore not a hindrance to consciences.

TS


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